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33 minutes ago, hifinutt said:

2200 rrp....oh my gosh !!! 

Yep , before it was discontinued it retailed at £1500 , mine was a 50% saving from Seven Oaks .

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34 minutes ago, hifinutt said:

2200 rrp....oh my gosh !!! 

Yep... when launched, more expensive than any of their amps! I was happy with my CD23 and that was a lot of money so no interest at the time but now I have a Bluesound Node2...

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I will be very interested to hear the SA30 if it launches at the expected £2000 in September. That’s a lot cheaper than some of the competitors I’ve been considering. That’s things like the Naim Uniti Nova and Goldnote IS1000 are basically twice the price. 

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Would it be similar to the arcam 250 which has HDMI input too ? You don't see much mentioned of this 2ch  amp

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My immaculate D33 DAC has arrived. True audiophiles of course have their hifi as pride of place in their dedicated listening room; mine is tucked away in a heavily modified "stealth" mid-century HMV cabinet. Changing kit sometimes means (sort of) woodwork which may be one reason I don't change my core kit more often (or maybe I just like the sound it makes as it is). This time I needed to move three pairs of shelf batons which was interesting.

All now installed and IMHO looking good. The non-Arcam interlopers are the Rega RP6 up top and the Bluesound Node 2 sitting alongside the TTPSU. All are comfortably seated on Audiophile Base01's on Apollo 6mm glass shelves on E-shaped draught excluder (er, I mean audiophile grade isolation material) on aforementioned custom-made batons.

The D33 is wonderful. After limited listening, I'm not that keen on Filter 1 which seems to bloat the bass but that has been mainly on bass-heavy tracks. I have my CD23T and Bluesound Node 2 hooked up via Coax/SPDIF into the D33 as wel as via RCA into the A49 so I can readily compare DAC options. I may be mistaken but there seems to be something (good) going on with soundstage/channel separation when using the D33. Sound quality (no filter, filter 2) is at least a match for the CD23T's RingDAC as far as I can tell at this early stage, which is a very good thing indeed.

More to follow.

Photos for the hifi porn obsessed:

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3 minutes ago, TheFlash said:

I'm not that keen on Filter 1

I couldn't tell the difference between the filters , I think I left mine on 2 because it was recommended in a review :ph34r:

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Update on the D33 DAC. Last night I was washing up, as you do, and listening to Radio Paradise via the Dali Opticon speakers which I bought a few months ago in the Nottingham Hifi/Superfi auction. I thought gosh, these are sounding quite good. Not sure what inspired me to take the D33 out of the equation but the Bluesound Node 2 is also hooked up direct to the Arcam A49 amp, so I just switched sources. Crikey: so much missing. It all sounded rather cheap and 2D on the Dalis, and the bass lost some of its impressive shape/definition on the ATC's in the lounge too. I changed back to the D33 and all was lovely again. And repeat. A much bigger difference than I remember when first installing it and doing comparative listening.

Top tip then. If you have the opportunity when auditioning new kit, don't just dial it in and listen; leave it in place for at least a few days and then take it out and see what's gained/lost.

You probably knew that...:minikev:

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I bought a second D33 DAC for the Kendal man-cave. Appalling contrast on pic below, for which apologies, but below my Audia Flight FLS10 and Bluesound Node 2 are (silver) CD23T, T32, DV139 and now D33 at the bottom.

Arcam fanboy then.

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As I've been an Arcam user for the last 18 months or so, I just thought I'd submit my first post here to say hello.

Upgraded from a Rega Elicit R to my local dealer's ex-demo Arcam A49 - big improvement in dynamics and low level detail. Replaced Rega DAC R a few months later with a mint second hand D33, using the rPlay as a streaming transport from a Qnap NAS. 

Still using my Kef R500 speakers but have a pair of Harbeth SHL5+ 40th Anniversary on order after borrowing a pair from the dealer to try at home - beautiful sounding combo with the A49! 

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Gosh , that will be the most fabulous combo . recently put my arcam a75 with my p3esr i had and it was a lovely organic sound which was compelling . in fact i preferred it to the 3k class A amp that i was using. welcome to the wam . really pleased you have the a49 .

I have heard the shl5plus annies several times and they are very good indeed . hope you enjoy yours when they come 

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1 minute ago, VeraAndPhilharmonic said:

As I've been an Arcam user for the last 18 months or so, I just thought I'd submit my first post here to say hello.

Upgraded from a Rega Elicit R to my local dealer's ex-demo Arcam A49 - big improvement in dynamics and low level detail. Replaced Rega DAC R a few months later with a mint second hand D33, using the rPlay as a streaming transport from a Qnap NAS. 

Still using my Kef R500 speakers but have a pair of Harbeth SHL5+ 40th Anniversary on order after borrowing a pair from the dealer to try at home - beautiful sounding combo with the A49! 

Welcome aboard the good ship Wam and to the Arcam crew!

We have some similar kit. My pic in the post before yours is of my Arcam-heavy kit in my Kendal pad; I have similar CD23T/T32/D33 here in Leicestershire but the amp is an A49. I currently use it only as a pre into my ATC actives (and am very happy with it). Wasted as a pre? In some ways yes but it also drives my kitchen speakers.

The D33 is a fine DAC isn't it...

The only thing I'd point out, and it's not really for this thread, is that if I understand it correctly the rPlay takes a signal direct from the mobile device running DTS PlayFi which puts it in the playback chain and not just in the control chain; you can test this by playing some music and walking out of wifi range with your mobile device and the music will stop playing if it's in the chain. I and some others prefer to keep the playback chain as direct as possible. If you use a streamer like a Bluesound Node2 or Auralic Aries and repeat the experiment then the music will keep playing because the playback chain is from Qnap direct to streamer not Qnap to mobile device to (rPlay) streamer: the mobile device is merely controlling playback. There are other recent threads about streamers or streamers and DACs which touch on this.

I'll let you get stuck into the rest of the forum.

Best wishes,

Nigel

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Thanks for the replies :) I am very much looking forward to receiving my Harbeths. I haven't actually heard the Anni's yet as my dealer only has the standard SHL5+.

The D33 is a fantastic DAC Flash - you must've been smitten with your's to buy a second one! It really is a big step up over the Rega DAC in all areas and good value too - by the time I sold my Rega DAC it only cost me about 300 quid to upgrade.

The rPlay does indeed stream via the control device even when connected to a NAS drive via an Ethernet switch. It does sound really good though. I do have problems with it cutting out quite frequently (when using NAS drive), and I can't play high-res files either (it just stutters) - this is probably due to the aforementioned non-direct via the controller design.

DTS have implemented a direct to device mode in the latest Play-Fi update, but it only works when using non-uPnP sources at the moment - they are supposed to be releasing the direct mode for uPnP sources soon - I'm hoping this will fix the reliability issues.

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@TheFlash @VeraAndPhilharmonic

I've heard from the horse's mouth, that Arcam were particularly proud of the D33 DAC - so it's no wonder you both rate it.

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2 hours ago, VeraAndPhilharmonic said:

Thanks for the replies :) I am very much looking forward to receiving my Harbeths. I haven't actually heard the Anni's yet as my dealer only has the standard SHL5+.

The D33 is a fantastic DAC Flash - you must've been smitten with your's to buy a second one! It really is a big step up over the Rega DAC in all areas and good value too - by the time I sold my Rega DAC it only cost me about 300 quid to upgrade.

The rPlay does indeed stream via the control device even when connected to a NAS drive via an Ethernet switch. It does sound really good though. I do have problems with it cutting out quite frequently (when using NAS drive), and I can't play high-res files either (it just stutters) - this is probably due to the aforementioned non-direct via the controller design.

DTS have implemented a direct to device mode in the latest Play-Fi update, but it only works when using non-uPnP sources at the moment - they are supposed to be releasing the direct mode for uPnP sources soon - I'm hoping this will fix the reliability issues.

I have never knowingly/memorably heard Harbeths... though they must surely have made an appearance at one of the superb Kegworth shows (look under Bake-Offs @dah if this makes no sense!). They are much loved by many here.

Yes, very happy with the D33. I tend to leave the filters off though do experiment occasionally.

That DTS development is an interesting one. Let us know how you get on with it, both interrupt-wise and sound quality wise.

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I like filter 2 the best. I find that anti-aliasing filters (as is filter 1) roll off the top end noticeably on CD resolution material - have you tried filter 1 on 24/192 files? You may notice that it behaves differently. To me filter 2 is the most natural sounding one. 

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