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personally not sure about the unipivot arm on the acoustic solid in the adds, but if you like 'em, then It's a good price.

You'd have been very suprised at the synergy between this particular high mass deck and the Hadcock, John. When this was suggested around the time of purchase I thought someone was having a laugh. It was only when I heard them both together with a decent MC, it still remains as one of my biggest 'wow' moments in hifi. Plus, I've yet to hear any turntable that made me think, that's so much better, want one!

The point is moot anyway seeing as the arm and cart have now moved on (as is my interest into expensive'ish hifi) but synergy exists in some truly strange combinations. We shouldn't let our preconceived notions or ideas get in the way of making the right choices. It really is no coincidence that a lot of AS users have Hadcocks or other unipivots fitted, even on the 7.5k flagship.

That is of course, you are totally against unipivots from an engineering point fo view!

I'm sure the OP will find something that suits his pocket and his ears, the best thing you can do is try and listen to a few decks. Unless he's willing to drop a substancial wad of cash, I doubt he'll get a massive jump on from the Thorens. I went from a Roksan deck to a Gert Pedersen modified Orbe, the changes were not huge at all. The 'wow' factor came when spending serious money, which understandably, not everyone is willing or able to do. But as with all things, you pays your money.....

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As opposed to Kingdom Come - who weren't ;-)

Indeed, my user name is actual down to the fact that they are/were one of my absolute favourite bands in the early 90's. The first four albums are simply masterpieces, if you like hard rock fused with heavy blues and a bit of smattering of soul/gospel, you need to have these on replay for a few weeks. If you don't hear something you don't like, then don't tell me you love music!

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I'm sure the OP will find something that suits his pocket and his ears, the best thing you can do is try and listen to a few decks. Unless he's willing to drop a substancial wad of cash, I doubt he'll get a massive jump on from the Thorens.

That is the thing that nags at me, I'm sort of hoping my Thorens dies of old age and I'm forced to buying. Right now in the summer months its not getting much use.

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I think you'd need to hear something you think represents, what you'd like to gain. There are very big subjective gains to be had, but then there's the cost!

I'd personally go for a really good phono stage, audition one, see if that brings on what you already have. You may decide that, and a really good cart, gives your already capable deck a lift that refreshes your listening experience. Will it be enough? Well, that's the big question really.

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Lately I've been very impressed with a systemdek IIx I picked up for 160 quid. Stuck a 2M red on it and hey presto. Moving up the ladder I then acquired an immaculate Project Perspective for 350 quid. Brilliant and looks great too. When I was oggling that I was also scanning for P25's and P5's. Both excellent but most seem to go for 4-500 and it depends on the condition (saw many for around 475, if you see one for 300 don't even think about it, buy it!). The RB600/700 arms are great and look lovely too. I was looking for a wood P5. Difficult to find though then ideally you need the psu which is an extra 100 at least. When you get to 600 quid, well like all of us, you think do I want to tweak something a bit more basic as fare as it can go or do I want to go for the next level up. Vpi scouts can be found for 800quid or so and also look for things like Pro-Ject 9.1's etc. You'd be surprised. I love Gyrodecs but they seem to retain more value putting them up into the next tier. Above that? The worlds your oyster. Nottingham analogue, fiddling with Garrards, Michell Orbe would tempt me.....

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I think you'd need to hear something you think represents, what you'd like to gain. There are very big subjective gains to be had, but then there's the cost!

I'd personally go for a really good phono stage, audition one, see if that brings on what you already have. You may decide that, and a really good cart, gives your already capable deck a lift that refreshes your listening experience. Will it be enough? Well, that's the big question really.

Phil, don't know if you looked at my system data, I have a Pure Sound P10 which improved on the Mira and Denon dl 110 cart, I won't be changing the P10 but interested in your cart. views.

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I had a Gyrodec for years, was always fiddling with it trying to coax more bass out of it, also later a SME 20/2 but for a real bargain, and betters both of these is an Avid Diva, must be the conical type bearing but its got something certainly the Gyrodec did nt have

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