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I was under the impression that if you sat between speakers ( not literally)  the correct toe in was when you could only  see the front of the speaker and not the side? I will try this extreme toe in later..a few more holes in my parquet floor.. Bit of filler should do the trick

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12 minutes ago, Nearly bewildered said:

I was under the impression that if you sat between speakers ( not literally)  the correct toe in was when you could only  see the front of the speaker and not the side? I will try this extreme toe in later..a few more holes in my parquet floor.. Bit of filler should do the trick

I really don't think it's worth making holes in your floor to try this out. It is not a sensible way to set up speakers. 

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2 minutes ago, MartinC said:

I really don't think it's worth making holes in your floor to try this out. It is not a sensible way to set up speakers. 

I have thought better of it..lol

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5 hours ago, Nearly bewildered said:

I was under the impression that if you sat between speakers ( not literally)  the correct toe in was when you could only  see the front of the speaker and not the side? I will try this extreme toe in later..a few more holes in my parquet floor.. Bit of filler should do the trick

I went to see what speakers you have - but I couldn't 'cause you hasn't filled in any data on your Wam profile .. I am not so sure about toe in but there some occasions when a toe up the arse might be more appropriate :)   

Now if you are talking about filler - perhaps we will see a posting on which filler has the best musical or damping qualities as it would be about as useful as this thread although the more amusing comments are making up for it perhaps.   

As for severe toe in - it reminds me of when I was a lad, living at home with my parents, I preferred the sound laying my bookshelf speakers on the floor and laying between them (with a nice cushion under my head) with a speaker facing each ear (rather than using headphones) it allowed low volume (for parents when i was listening in the late hours), whilst highish volume (for me) .. I found that about 2 feet from each ear worked best and laying the speaker sideways (so both woofer and tweeter were at ear level) .. it did require a degree of toe out though (twisting the loudspeaker so the tweeter was slightly further away than the bass unit) ... 

As my current speakers weigh much more than I can lift - after no toe in I adopted the recommendation of the manufacturer who said that customers preferred a degree of toe in .. so with risk to life and limb I did move them to a slight toe in position .. I am not sure if more toe in or less may improve things but as they satisfy me completely sound wise, buggered if i am going to experiment any more :) 

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1 hour ago, uzzy said:

I went to see what speakers you have - but I couldn't 'cause you hasn't filled in any data on your Wam profile .. I am not so sure about toe in but there some occasions when a toe up the arse might be more appropriate :)   

Now if you are talking about filler - perhaps we will see a posting on which filler has the best musical or damping qualities as it would be about as useful as this thread although the more amusing comments are making up for it perhaps.   

As for severe toe in - it reminds me of when I was a lad, living at home with my parents, I preferred the sound laying my bookshelf speakers on the floor and laying between them (with a nice cushion under my head) with a speaker facing each ear (rather than using headphones) it allowed low volume (for parents when i was listening in the late hours), whilst highish volume (for me) .. I found that about 2 feet from each ear worked best and laying the speaker sideways (so both woofer and tweeter were at ear level) .. it did require a degree of toe out though (twisting the loudspeaker so the tweeter was slightly further away than the bass unit) ... 

As my current speakers weigh much more than I can lift - after no toe in I adopted the recommendation of the manufacturer who said that customers preferred a degree of toe in .. so with risk to life and limb I did move them to a slight toe in position .. I am not sure if more toe in or less may improve things but as they satisfy me completely sound wise, buggered if i am going to experiment any more :) 

My speakers are AE1 mk3s..i think i can move them without  having to move very heavy stands..ill try it later if i can be bothered..i also found laying down in floor..listening to hifi is interesting as the sound passes over my head..trouble is at my age laying on the floor is uncomfortable after about a minute! So back to armchair..when i was a kid my grandmother had a hifi and I thought it brilliant.my uncle was a dj then and he let four albums for me to listen to ( my grandmother liked classical music)  the albums were black sabbath ' paranoid ' led zep 2 & 3 and charles aznavour 2 lol..and try as I might i have never reproduced the sound that i remember from then..( also my first air guitar then too. Jimmy pages fault! im a virtuoso air guitarist now! Hahaha) happy days..

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10 minutes ago, Nearly bewildered said:

My speakers are AE1 mk3s..i think i can move them without  having to move very heavy stands..ill try it later if i can be bothered..i also found laying down in floor..listening to hifi is interesting as the sound passes over my head..trouble is at my age laying on the floor is uncomfortable after about a minute! So back to armchair..when i was a kid my grandmother had a hifi and I thought it brilliant.my uncle was a dj then and he let four albums for me to listen to ( my grandmother liked classical music)  the albums were black sabbath ' paranoid ' led zep 2 & 3 and charles aznavour 2 lol..and try as I might i have never reproduced the sound that i remember from then..( also my first air guitar then too. Jimmy pages fault! im a virtuoso air guitarist now! Hahaha) happy days..

Nice one - but for the future it would be most helpful if you could complete your profile (location and your kit).  The advantage of this is wammers find local people to ask opinions and to get to together to listen to each others' systems.  You will find we are mostly a very friendly bunch in here who do like to socialise on occasions.

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