Essy

Tannoy 12" red Corner Chatsworth?

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Hi all :)

This is my first post so if this could be in a better location then please let me know.

I am looking for a little help on a pair of Tannoy speakers I have had for a few years. Having searched a bit on the old interwebs I thought a post here might be my best bet. These were my Grandfathers and were purchased in 1958 (So I was told). Having looked around I believe them to be Chatsworth corner speakers with 12" red drivers. I do not have an amp that would do them any justice. just a 10 year old Onkyo av amp. The old matching Quad valve one disappeared years ago and I am sitting on the fence about either selling the tannoys or getting an amp that would match them.

Finances are not exactly limitless so any suggestions on a good budget/value amp that would pair with these. If not this route then how much should I be asking for the Tannoys as I have no idea on the intricacies of vintage hi-fi world?     

I have put a couple of pics of them here any advice or info would be greatly appreciated I can, of course, take any other mages or provide information that would help. 

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Any number of amps will do them justice (it would be interesting to see how much improvement you could hear comparing to your old Onkyo which are well made far eastern of course)  .. probably the most cost effective introduction into serious high end sound would be a Sugden A21 which has a smooth valve like sound ..... but the list is endless ..  if you can lay your hands on a Myst TMA3 (usually about £250 second hand to £300) they would be a dream match IMO.  Those are my two recommendations (I could list a shedload more) and I am sure there will be many more from other Wammers.

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I've not seen speakers like this before. It looks like they need to be pushed flush with corner walls to complete the enclosure? Are they meant to be attached to or sealed with the walls at all?

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Just now, Essy said:

Thank you both for the reply I am having a look at the two amps now

- The picture is with the backs removed. Below pic with the back on.

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Ah! That makes more sense :D.

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Keep the speakers, they are lovely. :)

Pretty much any amp will drive these, so be patient until you have the funds for the amp you want.  I have had best results with Tannoys from push-pull valve amps and Class A solid state. 30 watts will be plenty.

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18 minutes ago, MartinC said:

I've not seen speakers like this before. It looks like they need to be pushed flush with corner walls to complete the enclosure? Are they meant to be attached to or sealed with the walls at all?

In the 50s 60s 70s and 80s there were quite a few - Alison made dedicated corner speakers designed to sound their best when sited in the corner.  The Tannoy design was much older and designed to go into corners before we got the bible of hifi and what you should and shouldn't do.

They are made to fit into a corner but probably sound better when pulled out of the corner and in from side walls a bit :) 

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I had assumed the top picture was one with the back taken off.

In your shoes, I'd try and beg, steal or borrow a decent amp (preferably valve) and a suitable source and see whether you actually like the Tannoy 'sound', not to mention the looks. There are usually some members in reasonable distance who might enjoy your tea-making and biscuit provision in return for seeing what the setup would sound like!

The decision after that is entirely yours. Some people love them (as evidenced by current prices), others would spend the funds elsewhere.

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Hi Essy.

The speakers, being very efficient, can handle so many different amps (as Uzzy said above). While they were designed as corner units, they sound just as good out of those corners and in positions you would normally use for standard,box speakers. They're freestanding and shouldn't be attached or stuck to a corner. Off the top of my head, Chatsworth,York, Lancaster, GRF, and the gigantic Autograph were all Tannoy corner speakers which were producet in standard shapes as well. (There are others).

 The "RED" drivers, alone, would be worth around £1500+ (they're much sought after) Such is the condition, of those, and the cabinets that yer looking at a fair few bob invested in them. The combination of "Reds" , corner cabs and condition ramps the price up. Everything looks pristine. Mebbe new cloth grilles to get rid of the "smoke ring" round the speaker edge.

I'd try them with yer Onkyo, ye may be pleasantly surprised. Wouldn't begin to suggest an amp but a quality,used amp ( imo valve) would open them up beautifully... personally - I'd keep them...:x

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PS,

Some info...This is the MK2, yours is an older version.You can find the makers mark and date produces inside the cabinet.

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These are a wonderful pair of speakers, and in what looks like great condition. The drive units are 15 ohm, which in theory should make them very easy to drive. As others have said, they are sought after, especially in Japan, where high prices are paid.

Speakers from the forties and fifties had to have large  cabinets to help make them more efficient, for the flea powered amps of the day. Corner units were very popular with mono, single speaker units, and with the coming of stereo, quite a few company's who made them, just added another speaker cabinet. 

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They do look lovely and a nice item to have from your Grandfather.

would be worth getting the grille of the front to see the condition of the drivers first before plugging in ANY amp.. hoping they haven’t perished but there are plenty of repair specialists if they have a bit. 

If you have the room, would be great to build a system around them.

Knowing your budget for amp etc would help. I too agree that a Class A amp like the Sugden mentioned above would be ideal. MK1s range from around £500 and MK2s around £900 to £1100

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Super Wammer

I agree these are very desireable indeed .......keep them enjoy them , they will only increase in value...😋

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The cabinets look very flexible esp for the weight of a 12" red driver .....if you get them running in a decent amp I'd be tempted to add in some internal bracing, which should improve the sound even more

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