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The Hi-Fi Pub (Cafe, Restaurant...)

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14 hours ago, Southeast said:

Why do you think it has become that way?

Can you imagine a newbie, having a basic interest, then coming on here and being subjected to the old angry measurists and their waffle? Its enough to kill their interest dead in the water,and they troddle off to buy a Bose bluetooth speaker.

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Surely music is such a personal experience not enough share similar tastes? So no matter what you try to manage, you'll alienate some and interest others. Mainstream is largely rubbish but caters for the masses, exclusivity doesn't have the footfall. You can't win.

However, trendy Cafe's are popping up with nice coffee and vinyl systems playing and hopefully that will grow. More of a club personal vibe feeling, however that also needs someone who's interesting hosting the event or people will quickly disappear again!

Very difficult to get it right, I think...

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1 hour ago, bohemian said:

Whereabouts in the Festival Hall is this?

Umm, coincidentally, just been updating the DA site with a news item about this.

Apparently it's in the same space previously occupied by Canteen if that helps.

Otherwise you'll just have to look for signage or interrogate an official.

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3 hours ago, notevenclose said:

Umm, coincidentally, just been updating the DA site with a news item about this.

Apparently it's in the same space previously occupied by Canteen if that helps.

Otherwise you'll just have to look for signage or interrogate an official.

Thanks. Next time I am in there I will ask.

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The problem today is the market is small and widespread.  We forget that even in the hey day of the 70s that lots of hifi shops went bust.  

We have firms like Richer Sounds who have picked their niche and are good at what they do and probably sell more TVs than they do hifi.  

You have the specialist firms like Jordan who have identified their market have two shops - one in the south and one in Scotland and also import and distribute to other dealers.

In the 80s Audio T was the big boy .. no more 

I am sure there are other dealers who have identified their market and have been in business doing ok for ages (Unilet and Brady's)  the interesting thing with Unilet though is the owner is a businessman first and hifi person second.

Then when you get out into the sticks (places like Northampton) it is a wilderness with few specialist dealers and you have to travel to find them and of course due to size the amount and variation of stock is small.  Probably because they have identified their market and the figures needed to be sold to make a few bob and stay in business.

The one thing that has surprised me though is the lack of Second Hand hifi shops .. a guy started one in Northampton in the late 90s and early 2000s and was going from strength to strength (until he hit wife problems I think).  He worked hard seeking out bargains on ebay and gumtree and others and stocked the shop with good second hand gear - and of course most of us would pay a premium to get second hand gear from a knowledgeable dealer who also offers a warranty.  Before he closed up shop on marital split he had also started to carry new items as well (well chosen stuff).   I am convinced there is so much good second hand stuff out there that this type of shop would be very successful in the right hands (especially with the number of empty stores in towns it should make getting a premises fairly cheap a possibility.   The only other factor required is self ability as an electrical engineer to fix stuff (or have a good repair man on hand you can use).

if I won the £100 million lottery I would open such a shop also selling vinyl and cds (second hand and new) it would keep me occupied in my retirement for sure.  Along with guitars and amps (and perhaps drums and PA) - damn it looks like it needs to be a win of more like £150 million :) 

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On 09/02/2019 at 07:31, Von Krolock said:

Great idea , except that sadly the General Public are completely disinterested in hi-fi.
The majority of people are not & will never be interested in well reproduced music.
Back a few decades when it was third in priority after a house & a car a hifi had bragging value but now it means nothing.
Owning good hifi has no cachet.
 


 

I would agree with it. And I would be hurt by the lack of respect such highend engineering would attract on such premises. Or more likely disrespect to the founders and makers of such fine kit, though it was not intended as such. 

 I had some guests over the other day, and asked to listen to my system. Took some prodding on their part to convince me to switch on, as I could expect what was to follow and was not too keen to play it. 

And just as expected, no sooner had I pressed play, they struck a conversation between themselves, with the music relegated to the back ground. The lack of respect to someone's  pride and joy, and more importantly the time and passion that went into it, left me with a bad taste. 

I soon switched off the system on a excuse, and promised myself never to repeat the same mistake, unless the guest seemed to be a serious listener. 

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At last I've got here :D

Very nice ; sipping a pepper gin and trying to get in to the Hipster vibe! B|

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6 hours ago, v1nn1e said:

At last I've got here :D

Very nice ; sipping a pepper gin and trying to get in to the Hipster vibe! B|

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Very nice :) :)...hearty congratulations...and thanks for posting the pics. How did the system sound. Did you have a listen to their top system with living voice speakers by any chance .

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I'm not sure which system was in operation.

It was just some background Jazz at pretty low volume - sounded nice but TBH, it could have been anywhere.

Now I've checked out the route from where I work when I'm in London, I'll try and get back up after work another time and hear one of their DJ's in the evening.

Something that felt like it was missing was more involvement from the customers. Some sort of modern day jukebox would be good. So many people have noise cancelling headphones these days that if they don't want to hear what's on, they can just listen to their own thing from their 'phone.

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I happened to be passing RFH tonight and dropped in to Spiritland for a cheeky half on the way home. It’s at the back of the hall, accessed from its own entrance at street level.

The narrow front bar has two large speakers at several metres separation (sorry no internal pictures taken). The dining room at the back has what I think are the Living Voice speakers.

As with the KX venue, it seams a nice place to go for a coffee / drink / meal but with the general hubub of conversation it doesn’t strike me as a venue for serious listening to music on a fine system. Besides,  if I travel to the SBC to listen to music it’s going to be the real thing in the concert hall.

There did seam to be a DJ booth so perhaps some nights the music may be the main focus.

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