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8 minutes ago, BeeRay said:

I would have thought there is very little difference between the 5005 and the 6006.

It rather depends how much you believe the reviews...    They xx06 was supposed to be better than the xx05, then the tuned up edition with the UK tag was better still.  I think the concept harks back to the early KI tweaked Marantz special editions.  

https://www.whathifi.com/awards/best-cd-players-2018

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9 minutes ago, Nopiano said:

It rather depends how much you believe the reviews...    They xx06 was supposed to be better than the xx05, then the tuned up edition with the UK tag was better still.  I think the concept harks back to the early KI tweaked Marantz special editions.  

https://www.whathifi.com/awards/best-cd-players-2018

I don't believe the WHF reviews, I think a lot of it is bs. Launch a new version almost the same as last year's so they can pick an award. Yes they may put on a few new features. If you go by WHF reviews then todays hifi  is miles better than 10 years ago, 20 years ago that stuff must be complete rubbish because every year things improve so much. You don't honestly believe all that nonsense do you?

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Super Wammer
2 minutes ago, BeeRay said:

I don't believe the WHF reviews, I think a lot of it is bs. Launch a new version almost the same as last year's so they can pick an award. Yes they may put on a few new features. If you go by WHF reviews then todays hifi  is miles better than 10 years ago, 20 years ago that stuff must be complete rubbish because every year things improve so much. You don't honestly believe all that nonsense do you?

I think if you read what I post here you’ll realise I’m not that gullible!  I only changed my speakers and amp in 2017, after almost twenty years with the previous items. 

Funnily enough the WHF folks don’t believe it either, as their reference speakers are fifteen year old ATC SCM50s.  But manufacturers do make incremental improvements that some might appreciate.  And they have to have something to write about!

For the OP, he might be delighted with a 5005 for £200, and it’s a fine buy.  But if it were me, I’d probably choose the latest one for £260, given the choice.  

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I wouldn't be so hasty to dismiss the Pioneer Stable Platters. I had a Pioneer PD-S705 before my current Creek 50CD and it made an excellent transport. Mine was in mint condition and cost me £39 off eBay. If the laser goes - just buy another one - there's plenty out there. The 705 had both co-axial and optical outputs. The Lampizator guy that does expensive valve conversions rates them:-

http://www.lampizator.eu/lampizator/REFERENCES/Pioneer_703/pioneer703.html

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I’m not dissing the Pioneers per se, but I’m not about to buy one and rebuild it- I don’t have the ability. I loved the turntable approach, even if you did have to tell everyone in the house to put discs in upside down! Legatolink I just found bizarre, as it would randomly boost an instrument or part. It made a John Martyn album sound like the whole band were  moving around on chairs with wheels. 

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1 hour ago, Nopiano said:

I think if you read what I post here you’ll realise I’m not that gullible!  I only changed my speakers and amp in 2017, after almost twenty years with the previous items. 

Funnily enough the WHF folks don’t believe it either, as their reference speakers are fifteen year old ATC SCM50s.  But manufacturers do make incremental improvements that some might appreciate.  And they have to have something to write about!

For the OP, he might be delighted with a 5005 for £200, and it’s a fine buy.  But if it were me, I’d probably choose the latest one for £260, given the choice.  

OK that's good to hear, I thought he could get the 5005 for only £119?

I also changed my system after 20 years, I was very disappointed with most modern stuff. REviews are to promote hifi, that's what hifi mags do, sell more hifi, more advertising, more mag sales, everyone wins.

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Unless you buy hi fi critic which often gives bad reviews (If you read between the lines) and carries no advertisements. I read a poor review today on a product in thus mag 

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Super Wammer
11 minutes ago, hifinutt said:

Unless you buy hi fi critic which often gives bad reviews (If you read between the lines) and carries no advertisements. I read a poor review today on a product in thus mag 

True. They are independent, aren’t they?

My favourite example from WHF is this, which shows they aren’t pushovers...

https://www.whathifi.com/heco/direkt-einklang/review

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Love it ! Sound is a big old mess !!! Well the last heco direkt I heard made the sofa shake literally when we played interstellar but that was the next model up. Pretty impressive sound and they are quite popular 

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Super Wammer
1 hour ago, BeeRay said:

OK that's good to hear, I thought he could get the 5005 for only £119?

I also changed my system after 20 years, I was very disappointed with most modern stuff. REviews are to promote hifi, that's what hifi mags do, sell more hifi, more advertising, more mag sales, everyone wins.

Ah, yes, I was referring to the item I saw at £200. But, yes, here is the 5005 for £120.  And they are selling the 6006UK for £250.  

In that comparison it’s hard to argue against that £120 bargain!  

http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/marantz-cd5005-player-cd5005-black-p-2627.html

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1 minute ago, Nopiano said:

Ah, yes, I was referring to the item I saw at £200. But, yes, here is the 5005 for £120.  And they are selling the 6006UK for £250.  

In that comparison it’s hard to argue against that £120 bargain!  

http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/marantz-cd5005-player-cd5005-black-p-2627.html

Note that this is a 'B Stock Item', whatever this may mean.

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Having bought from them before, b stock can mean ex display, but how many display models can you have? Could be returns also, or could be non existent. Only one way to find out............

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26 minutes ago, MartinC said:

Note that this is a 'B Stock Item', whatever this may mean.

B stock is usually because of a minor cosmetic issue. It should still have the full warranty. I would check with the seller.

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They describe themselves thus:- 
Hyperfi is an electrical clearance superstore, specialising in new, graded and ex-demonstration equipment.

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