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newlash09

Suspended, direct drive, belt driven TT, what's the difference

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On 04/02/2019 at 02:41, Nopiano said:

A Gyrodec is a very appealing device.  As you know, I’m delighted with mine which is its non-sprung, cheaper little brother.  Very loosely speaking, I’d say a Gyrodec is smoother and less exciting than a good direct drive, but with a more spacious sound.  That makes it your ‘cup of tea’, I suspect!

I would caution against putting it on the floor. You’d need to be very flexible indeed to cue up a record, and it would surely be much more susceptible to unwanted dust. 

Thanks a lot Nopiano

After all the suggestions, I think I will wall mount it into my solid concrete wall with a robust stand fabricated out of metal and bolted to the wall. Iam somehow bewitched by the looks of the gyrodecs. And they somehow connect with me as I spent all my life around machines , and appreciate sound mechanical engineering. The other TT is looking at is acoustic solid and transrotor from Germany. 

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On 04/02/2019 at 02:15, radiant red said:

Vinyl is always the area you can quite easily blow your budget.

think order of priorities 

Deck... greatest cost, then arm then cartridge 

not sure what your budget is? Were you thinking new or used? Btw, vinyl is addictive 😜

Hi again radiant..I was thinking new. And an all in one :), if something like that exists. Don't think I know anything about changing arms and cartridges. So  prefer to buy a combo new and keep it unmolested for as long as I can foresee :D

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On 04/02/2019 at 02:32, uzzy said:

This is the way to go if you are intending spending a lot on the arm and cartridge.   If you are going to keep all to a budget then turntables like Thorens, Systemdek, Goldring GL75 and others can turn in a superlative performance with the right arm and cartridge for the former and cartridge for the Goldrings.  For example a Rega with an ortofon black or similar MM or a decent Moving Coil will IMO easily outperform a deck costing ten times as much with say an ortofon Red or Blue or similar.

The thing is with turntables I am convinced there is the placebo affect where because something is pure eye candy you think it sounds better (because you want it to sound better).  However, nice as a Girodeck looks IMO in outright performance it does not exceed that of a second hand LP12 or Systemdek Heavyweight purchased for less than half that you will pay for the Girdodeck ... then of course their are Rock turntables that can be had for a very good price second hand etc etc

Thanks a lot uzzy...that's some fodder for my brain. Will think over it. But it is very difficult to find good used turn tables here. So I will have to buy brand new from UK on my next trip. And preferably something that comes with everything that's needed to play right out of the box. As Iam not sure I have the technical where witall to roll arms or carts . 

So the options I centered on so far if buying in UK upto 2000 pounds were Michelle grodec SE and Nottingham analogue. 

If buying in Germany, it would either be Transrotor or Acoustic solid. But the Transrotor Zet 3 is probably the only Transrotor I could afford. And even that is almost twice the gyrodecs SE's price. 

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On 04/02/2019 at 05:00, rabski said:

"...And since vinyl will never be my primary source, don't want to spend too much on it."

An important point, though your opinion may change over time! In your position, I'd just buy the Gyro and not worry. It's more than a decent turntable and if looks matter, it ticks all the boxes. It's sensibly upgradable for the future as well.

Position and mounting is a separate issue. I'd always advise a wall shelf as the ideal. If your floor is really solid (concrete) then using a small table won't do any harm. I'd be vary wary about putting a turntable on the floor, but mainly because of the possibility of accidental damage.

Thanks a lot for the clarification rabski :)

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On 04/02/2019 at 21:42, v1nn1e said:

I've had my Gyro for nearly 8 years now and IMHO, it's FABULOUS!

For me vinyl is partly about being able to 'see' the music being made and the Gyro SE does it with bells on. That's why I'd never upgrade to the Orbe platter.

IMHO, the only other tables that look as good are monsters like the Basis or Oracle Delphi, but they are mega bucks.

It'll also take cartridge upgrades well, so lots of options for experimentation! :D

PS. I've got concrete floors and mine's on an Alphason table that sits on flat feet on the carpet/underlay.

Hi V1 ne

Wow..you've nailed it there. That is probably why I love the gyrodecs. The sense of it making music visually. Even I would never change the platter to an orbe, even if I got it for free. I would sorely miss the spinning brass counter weights. In fact I saw some video of the gyrodecs with a warm led light below of low intensity. And when the gyro was playing music with the lights interplay, it looked orgasmic to me :D

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23 hours ago, Idlewithnodrive said:

If you really like the look of the Gyro and really want one, just go for it.

It is a very competent TT and the pride of ownership for you will far outweigh any miniscule performance gains you might get from other decks.

Thanks a lot my friend. I've been smitten with them since I first saw them. Was planning on buying them in November when I was in UK. But couldn't find a dealer in Felixstowe. Previously signals at Ipswich were selling them. But in my previous call, they were not stocking the Michelle's anymore. So will need a little more luck next time :)

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7 hours ago, Chivas said:


Don't count on it! 11 years ago I bought a cheapie as I was curious about vinyl. I liked it. A lot. I spent an awful amount of time and money in firstly upgrading the cheapie, then replacing it and then in upgrading its replacement. 99% of my listening is now on vinyl!

Enjoy the journey!



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Thanks a lot Chivas :)

Point well noted. And yeah I will not rule out that possibility. Ever since I ended up with my present system, the overall sense of satisfaction is so high, that iam not inclined to change anything anymore. So probably a TT will be a nice new addition with swappable arms and carts to scratch that itch for a change which frequents us in this hobby :)

And it could well become my primary source if the records get cheaper . The good records cost a bomb in my place. Just out of curiosity, are all the latest albums coming out these days, also available on vinyl in the UK. Thanks 

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Super Wammer

The Clearaudio Concept, is a great all in one package, and comes with either a MM or MC, priced from £1200 -£1900 so well within budget, and they are simplicity itself to operate.

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Sevenoaks sell Gyrodec, so from Felixstowe, either the Norwich or Cambridge stores would be able to look after you. The guys in the Cambridge branch are great to deal with & one or two of them in particular are serious turntable fans.

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Sevenoaks in Witham maybe closer to Felixstowe and is on the main train line, so easier to get to. Witham is a small town, I have been to that shop several times and it is good, decent staff and rooms, no pressure to buy. But I would check they have what you want in stock first. 

The best shop in that area is probably Analogue Seduction near Peterborough but not so easy to get to.

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I doubt many shops would have a turntable such as a Gyrodec in stock. Most would be ordered from the manufacturer. I may be wrong but I wouldn’t expect to walk out of a store with a Gyrodec the same day.

I reckon it would be worth the planning & inconvenience though. Just needs a bit of planning & forethought.

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20 hours ago, greybeard said:

The Clearaudio Concept, is a great all in one package, and comes with either a MM or MC, priced from £1200 -£1900 so well within budget, and they are simplicity itself to operate.

Thanks greybeard..indeed the clearaudio is a strong and viable option. Something that has been at the back of my mind for sometime now. But judging by pics alone, it's looks didn't blow me away. But iam sure the sound quality is great. 

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20 hours ago, manicatel said:

Sevenoaks sell Gyrodec, so from Felixstowe, either the Norwich or Cambridge stores would be able to look after you. The guys in the Cambridge branch are great to deal with & one or two of them in particular are serious turntable fans.

Thanks manicatel...I had indeed tried to get to Norwich. But as my stay was short, I had to abandon the idea of taking the train from Felixstowe. But will certainly bear this in mind on my next trip. Thanks :)

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20 hours ago, BeeRay said:

Sevenoaks in Witham maybe closer to Felixstowe and is on the main train line, so easier to get to. Witham is a small town, I have been to that shop several times and it is good, decent staff and rooms, no pressure to buy. But I would check they have what you want in stock first. 

The best shop in that area is probably Analogue Seduction near Peterborough but not so easy to get to.

Thanks Beeray...I guess analogue seduction have an online store too. Looks easier buying online , but sadly wouldn't be able to hear it before buying. But I really didn't know about Witham before, something to check next time. I was only always considering Ipswich and Norwich.

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1 minute ago, newlash09 said:

Thanks Beeray...I guess analogue seduction have an online store too. Looks easier buying online , but sadly wouldn't be able to hear it before buying. But I really didn't know about Witham before, something to check next time. I was only always considering Ipswich and Norwich.

Yes Analogue Seduction have a large online site.It is always best to hear if you can first. There is a new Sevenoaks store in Norwich, also several other dealers. I did not think there was much in Ipswich? Do you have transport? 

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