badgerchap

Hard copy / download / stream?

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Today in the news (or yesterday) came the perhaps unsurprising revelation that CDs were plummeting in sales, along with downloads, and vinyl sales were plateauing, with streaming dramatically increasing.

I don’t know why, but I really dislike streaming. I do it, but only to try stuff out before I buy it for real. I’m happy to download, as long as I’ve paid for it, but I just seem to have an in-built dislike of anything I don’t really own. I felt the same about dodgy pirate discs as a kid, and stuff taped off the radio. I just don’t enjoy listening to music if it’s not actually mine.

Does anyone else feel like this, or am i just weird?

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Super Wammer

I'm not a great fan of streaming either, but I can see its appeal... I embrace and enjoy vinyl, CD and flac downloads, the only streaming I do is with specialist radio stations. I did read somewhere that the trusty audio cassette was making a resurgence and I still have all of mine from back in the Walkman days... :) 

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Ah, cassette tapes! Now that was an interesting medium. There are still tracks that I hear from my youth and wonder where the big bendy noises have gone! Damned CDs and their lack of stretch 😂

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9 hours ago, badgerchap said:

Does anyone else feel like this, or am i just weird?

You're on a hifi forum... What do you think? :D

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4 minutes ago, insider9 said:

You're on a hifi forum... What do you think? :D

Touché

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Gaming is where the growth is.

Music is getting left behind but only on legal sites.

The most clued up demographic for years hasn't payed for any music or films they have downloaded listend to or watched.

Go into any primary or secondary  school playground at break time in the UK

The kids know how to get everything for free.

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1 hour ago, Bignose5 said:

The kids know how to get everything for free.

Free. Perfect. Now.

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15 hours ago, badgerchap said:

Today in the news (or yesterday) came the perhaps unsurprising revelation that CDs were plummeting in sales, along with downloads, and vinyl sales were plateauing, with streaming dramatically increasing.

I don’t know why, but I really dislike streaming. I do it, but only to try stuff out before I buy it for real. I’m happy to download, as long as I’ve paid for it, but I just seem to have an in-built dislike of anything I don’t really own. I felt the same about dodgy pirate discs as a kid, and stuff taped off the radio. I just don’t enjoy listening to music if it’s not actually mine.

Does anyone else feel like this, or am i just weird?

I still buy CDs and then rip them to FLAC files. The CDs then end up in the loft. 

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I cannot understand paying for music that I will never own by monthly or annual subscription. Once I have bought a cd, or a download (and I do buy many classical downloads from eClassical and Chandos records; and Naxos have been sending me a free download every month for over a year) then I can play it as often as I like without ever having to pay for it again.

So, for me it is purchase cd or d/l but not streaming (other than Radio Paradise for free!)

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Personally I like to own the music I listen to. Streaming is great but if I find something I like I usually buy the album. Perhaps the fall in CD sales is partly due to secondhand sales such as Music Magpie and EBay?  Vinyl sales may be slowing due to price increases a couple of years ago a vinyl album was about £18 now they are around £25. I notice that the best selling albums of 2018 are mostly those sold by the big supermarkets at reasonable prices.

I don't want to rely on the internet and the likes of Spotify for my music as they may be unreliable particularly as it seems they don't actually make large profits.

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I've stopped buying CDs as a) I no longer have a CD player and b) the shelves in the spare room are full (I can't get rid incase any need re-ripping or I need to check which mastering I'm listening to, oh and it would be illegal of course ;))

I don't listen to much new music but if there's something I hear on Tidal I like, I'm a sucker for "limited edition" or coloured vinyl and will cross my fingers the download code has a FLAC or WAV option (which thankfully seems more common these days). If not, I'll buy it off somewhere like 7digital or HDTracks, quite possibly at the same price as the CD or more, which I admit is a bit daft but either way, the artist is getting paid.

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I don't buy much now, stream it, I went to buy a few but one was over £200 for a new cd, can get a used one for about £30, some artists don't even release cds. Downloads I have not tried yet, I may try a special edition such as Analogue Productions.

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28 minutes ago, bohemian said:

I cannot understand paying for music that I will never own by monthly or annual subscription. Once I have bought a cd, or a download (and I do buy many classical downloads from eClassical and Chandos records; and Naxos have been sending me a free download every month for over a year) then I can play it as often as I like without ever having to pay for it again.

So, for me it is purchase cd or d/l but not streaming (other than Radio Paradise for free!)

Trouble is I have a load of cds that I never play anymore. With streaming you can play what you want, no need for radio. To get the variety of music by buying would cost a fortune and some are not available on cd. Also sometimes there is a new improved version that you may want so then you will have to buy it again. 

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2 minutes ago, BeeRay said:

Also sometimes there is a new improved version that you may want so then you will have to buy it again. 

As a Beatles fan I can certainly agree with you on that, Universal Music certainly know how to get money out of you.

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3 minutes ago, AntA said:

As a Beatles fan I can certainly agree with you on that, Universal Music certainly know how to get money out of you.

Yes. I have 2 copies of Kind of Blue, both are not as good as more recent remasters. Same can be said for a lot of 70s albums that have only been done well on cd recently. I feel I wasted a lot of money buying music in the past. At least with streaming you can be fairly sure before buying that you like it. Even if I bought many albums I would still have streaming to find new music and for variety.

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