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Code of Practice for Scalford

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If I've learn't nothing else about the Wam it's that codes of practice are not what it's about, and Wammers aren't terribly good at doing what they are told!

I'm (fairly) sure you are trying to be helpful but did you not stop to think how your neat prescriptions would sound to someone who has dismantled their system and lugged it half way across the country at their own risk and expense for our pleasure? It was great to see everyone doing their room the way they wanted.

You can stick as many codes up as you like but when I meet, for the time, Wammers who's posts I follow and enjoy (or otherwise!) no code is going to stop me greeting them, or enquiring about their new dog or cats whose antics I have been following online. No code is going is going to stop me telling an exhibitor how much I am enjoying their system and expressing gratitude for all the effort they have put in.

The organisation was excellent in that it was solid and and underpinning but not in your face with a superb brochure and plentiful signs to lead you onto the next area where there were more rooms. That I missed things was down to me and simply not having enough time.

The event struck me as a wonderful, mad blend of music, hifi and socialising. With imperfect rooms, which the exhibitors are not familiar with, stuffed full of bodies it inevitably is not going to show most systems off at their best. But it does give a terrific chance to try different approaches, music and volume than one is used to and ideas to follow up on oneself.

Chapeau and hearty thanks to all concerned. You made a grumpy old git very happy and a bit pissed, but I expect the sore throat from talking too much :shock:, not to mention the slight lingering headache ;-) will soon pass.

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“We started off trying to set up a small anarchist community, but people wouldn't obey the rules.”

Alan Bennett

The point of the show for me is that its about the culture not the rules and the different rooms represent a culture of a common interest represented by diverse systems, music, personalities (especially personalities ;-)).

We can't all do what for example SCIDB does (brilliant BTW) but you wouldn't want every room to be the same either.

It was my first time exhibiting and because the super-experienced Crimson Donkey quite rightly had to leave me at several points (to organise the raffle) I was thrown in at the deep-end, which was great (no really, it was).

My newbie take was that the music needed to be 'slightly judged' depending on the people in the room - (i.e. I could generally tell who wouldn't warm to hip hop) but most of the time people enter to something that's already playing anyway, so no choice. I had a few requests but not many - apologies to the guy who asked for something classical and I couldn't find the one classical record we had :oops: - requests are fine but can play to a market of one.

I did find that having one or two guaranteed crowd-pleasers (Random Access Memories for example) helped if you had a room full and a bit of brain-freeze about what to play next.

I found that people were polite - asked sensible questions, didn't pester to have masses of technical detail and were happy to go with the flow on the music choices, even if they hated them. Importantly, nearly everyone said thank you on leaving and complimented the system - that was plenty for me. If you're that sort of person then a bit of chat about the music is fine but only if it's relevant e.g. comparing a couple of tracks live vs studio or 'this is my favourite recording of... but my sense, as others, is people don't come for that - if the music's to your taste or just bloody great then it'll speak for itself and if you haven't got it you'll go out and buy it. On that point, displaying what's playing is useful but I know not always possible with digital.

So while it was a learning curve and I'll know more for next year, it actually felt very natural even for a first-timer, so no rules please, that would upset the natural rhythm of the Show.

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Super Wammer

The Wams a flexible constitution, always has been. :)

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If I've learn't nothing else about the Wam it's that codes of practice are not what it's about, and Wammers aren't terribly good at doing what they are told!

I'm (fairly) sure you are trying to be helpful but did you not stop to think how your neat prescriptions would sound to someone who has dismantled their system and lugged it half way across the country at their own risk and expense for our pleasure? It was great to see everyone doing their room the way they wanted.

You can stick as many codes up as you like but when I meet, for the time, Wammers who's posts I follow and enjoy (or otherwise!) no code is going to stop me greeting them, or enquiring about their new dog or cats whose antics I have been following online. No code is going is going to stop me telling an exhibitor how much I am enjoying their system and expressing gratitude for all the effort they have put in.

The organisation was excellent in that it was solid and and underpinning but not in your face with a superb brochure and plentiful signs to lead you onto the next area where there were more rooms. That I missed things was down to me and simply not having enough time.

The event struck me as a wonderful, mad blend of music, hifi and socialising. With imperfect rooms, which the exhibitors are not familiar with, stuffed full of bodies it inevitably is not going to show most systems off at their best. But it does give a terrific chance to try different approaches, music and volume than one is used to and ideas to follow up on oneself.

Chapeau and hearty thanks to all concerned. You made a grumpy old git very happy and a bit pissed, but I expect the sore throat from talking too much :shock:, not to mention the slight lingering headache ;-) will soon pass.

Very :goodone:

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I think your post was supposed to be constructive but the timing probably all wrong. All the Organisers and Exhibitors are probably still recovering after an enjoyable but busy weekend so I think your comments could be seen to be a bit too soon.

Scalford works as the venue adds to the 'charm' of the event, sort of sums up the feel fo the wigwam community with a HUGE variety of members, systems and there is always something interesting round the corner.

Less is more, comments are welcome but probably not the day after :^

Very tired (but happy) Wammer just back from exhibiting, still everything in the car needing to be unpacked - Hoops has summed it up very well, and far more politely than I would have - give it a rest will you mate, we've been doing this for a few years and managed very nicely thank you without any formal rules :doh:

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Telling people the tracks you're playing is a good thing IMO. I had a number of people taking details but I definitely agree it should be a minimal interruption.

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(I've allowed 24 seconds to get between rooms)

S.

Presumably rounded up from your calculations of 23.9?

Serge, don't ever change. :notworthy:

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Hi All

having room sat for Freefallrob for an hour I found it very interesting, what held people's interest and what didn't.

I tried to do a Dean!!!

So I made a plan to switch from CD to vinyl, never playing more than two tracks from either format at any one time.

Let me tell you it's harder than it looks, so hats off to Dean.

but

I hugely enjoyed it and everyone was friendly and appreciative, and in general thanked us as they left.

Even though it wasn't my system I felt like I was being judged so making the right choice of music quickly became important, I chose poorly at the start of my hour, and emptied the room, but quickly built up a new audience with some carefully chosen Hendrix, Beatles, Talk talk and others. Kate counted 72 visistors in the hour with many staying for several tracks.

Overall it was an interesting experience and an insight into what being an exhibitor is really like.

It's harder than it looks.

I'm now considering exhibiting myself next year.

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3rd time of exhibiting.

1st year did the talking between tracks, asking questions, talking about kit thing.

Learnt very fast this empties the room faster than a Doombar/Curry fart.

This year played vinyl, & whilst swapping albums over, played a cd track.

Keeps the music flowing, very few gaps.

Someone has question, we talk about it in a low voice or go outside.

This is how I keep a full room.

Everyone does it diffrent & thats what Salford is about.

Cant wait for the OP to come back online & be hit with this Pandora's box he was foolish enough to open.

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One year, I tried doing some 'chat' about the kit and what it was doing, and pretty much all I got was complaints that they didn't come for a lecture, and I should shut up and play some tunes. Of course they were much more polite than that, but that was the message.

So in later years, I just played some tunes.

People are constantly walking in and walking out, so any form of 'structured' event, 20-30 minute sessions or whatever, are pointless. With 50 rooms and 7 hours, that gives visitors an average of 8 minutes a room if they want to visit everything and not buy records, eat, drink or wee. (I've allowed 24 seconds to get between rooms)

Asking visitors if they have a CDs or LPs they'd like played is fun, as it finds new music, some of course will be dire, (beauty is in the mind etc etc) but many aren't.

As to talking whilst playing music, that's inevitable as visitors have questions and don't have the time to wait until the track's over, old friends meet, etc etc. Just live with it. It's only a stereo!

Scalford is BLOODY hard work for the exhibitors, but worth it, or we wouldn't all keep coming back and doing it again and again. Mind you, 40Kg 'speakers from the first or even second floor is no joke.

S.

You could make up a nice little algorithm with age, piss pottedness and grumpiness variables.

The older you are the longer your knackered knees will take to get you from room to room and the longer amount of time required for each wee, not to mention the more wees per day to be allowed for (my excuse for not even for visiting half the rooms).

The greater ones grumpiness index, the less time that will be needed in each room for chatting and sundry pleasantries.

Then you could have a piss pot variable which would leave less total time for room visiting and also impact on the weeing variable, and of course the distance between each room would be longer.

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oh great, organised fun...

Indeed.

I'll opt out of the "code of practice", if that's OK?

Much easier to just go with the "flow". All punters are different, all exhibitors are different. I've partially lost my voice from people wanting to ask questions in my room yesterday - I enjoyed myself and those who stayed, especially those who brought music to play seemed to enjoy themselves also.

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I can think of somewhere the 'code of practise' could be inserted...sideways.

What a load of absolute nonsense.How about 'Thank you all who went to a lot of effort'? That would be a better post.

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Indeed.

I'll opt out of the "code of practice"' date=' if that's OK?

Much easier to just go with the "flow". All punters are different, all exhibitors are different. I've partially lost my voice from people wanting to ask questions in my room yesterday - I enjoyed myself and those who stayed, especially those who brought music to play seemed to enjoy themselves also.[/quote']

Couldn't agree more. I have been to 2 shows now, missed the last 2 unfortunately, but the only improvement I can think of would be more time - which of course would be problematic and therfore unlikely to happen. Thoroughly enjoyed both shows & gobsmacked at the amount of effort that the exhibitors and organizers put into it each year.

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