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  1. And, of course, many second hand decks are already made up from component parts of varying age and specification .
  2. Lots of informative stuff from folks above ... ... I think the bottom line is that you either have to really know what you're doing with an LP12 or buy it from an accessible respected dealer . If you don't have the luxury of a dealer within reasonable travelling distance ...then think at least twice ! With regard to the age of the deck ... In all cases, condition of the vital parts is critical . That said , an LP12 of any vintage , if in good working order , will deliver a wonderfully rewarding musical experience. But if you think that you'll then want to embark on a long term upgrading path, the older ones may not be the best value for money in the long run unless you have a friendly local dealer with lots of used bargains available on a regular basis.
  3. I think most folks appreciate that using an expensive high end moving coil in a budget arm isn't the best idea, neither in mechanical compatibility terms, nor in value for money terms. The grey area is maybe in that £300 to £400 price range, where we typically find higher end moving magnets and lower range moving coils. An arm like a Basik Plus [when in good nick] also occupies a sort of grey area . It has good enough bearings to cope reasonably with the higher levels of energy which many moving coils typically push into the arm but doesn't really perform at a high enough level to extract the best from them . The sensible approach is perhaps to judge the cartridges purely in cost versus performance terms, ignoring whether they happen to have moving coils or magnets. A Basik Plus will likely deliver decent value for money with a good £300 to £400 cartridge ...but above that level , allowing for taste, you probably won't hear any great further benefit.
  4. Different thread .... but the answers are maybe pretty much the same . The Basik Plus arm has historically worked just fine with modest Moving Coils like the Audio Technica ATF series . It will work with more expensive moving coils too. But the question is then whether it will enable those moving coils to perform any better than a well chosen Moving Magnet. It's been a long while since I've done any direct comparisons in this context ...but whilst the ATF-3 or something from the new expanded OC-9 range might be a very viable partner, I think you might on balance get a more "right sounding" result with something like the VM-750SH moving magnet at a similar cost [...or indeed with a good AT stylus on the K9 !] [As an illustration from my own experience .... When I was awaiting delivery of a new Ittok around 1982 I briefly used an Osawa Mirage OS60L in the Basik Plus. [This was a something of an Asak clone, about as good as the slightly later Linn Trak, and available at the time for silly money due to some importer deal]. It worked just fine ...but sounded different rather than better than a K9. When the Ittok arrived...the OS60L was then able to demonstrate that it was better than the K9 ]
  5. The Mayware was a cracking little arm for the just had to keep an eye on that eccentric counterweight , which could rotate over time to bugger up the azimuth adjustment.
  6. Yep...and it's all B*llocks . In a sense it's nice to see much loved old brand names on the market ...but the current makers are essentially trading on the basis of somebody else's hard earned reputation. It's not so bad where an independent maker is bought out by a financially sounder parent company...but resurrecting old brand names with no continuity of production is just sad.
  7. The bottom line is that mastering music to vinyl and playing it back on a turntable introduces potentially pleasing sonic artefacts. There is often a slightly pronounced and rich upper bass and lower mid range , together with a sloping top end, rich in pleasing even order harmonic distortions. It's not better ....but it often sounds "nicer" ...and if music doesn't sound pleasing to the ear's harder to enjoy. Good systems, be they analogue or digital, combine good retrieval of information with a pleasing portrayal of musical timbre ... ...and it's arguable that accuracy may not be the best attribute if the source material leaves something to be desired in terms of that elusive "musicality" .
  8. Just leave it be. A dent so hard to even see will certainly be even harder to hear ...and, as others have said, mucking about with it may well do more harm than good.
  9. Quite so . Since long before SO this fine adjustment of speaker placement with respect to the rear wall has been an integral part of the "tune dem" centred set up process. The method essentially being to move the speakers a certain distance backwards or forwards ..then half that distance , then half again , until we're satisfied we've hit the sweet spot. Within the constraints of practicality [and domestic harmony ] it works very well.
  10. Funny isn't it. Some of our most interesting conversations arise from "derailed" topics. I have to hold my hand up as a repeat offender when it comes to derailing the train ...or at least resetting the points to take a more scenic route . Too much lateral thinking sometimes perhaps....and It can occasionally be unfair to the OP ...but very often we've said all that needs to be said about the original topic and are just too lazy to start a new thread .
  11. Horses for courses is the only conclusion I've ever been able to arrive at So long as we're aware of all the sensible things to try...we have the tools for the job.
  12. I've tried "floating" heavy slabs on a carpet... but I always seem to gravitate back to the old spikes onto the floor solution. There are so many variables ...but holding the speaker still under drive will always remain a primary objective . Only your ears can confirm the best answer in any given room.