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Knopfler and Dire Straits

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Ok there were some comments made about Knopfler and co;) (Stannah chairlifts etc) on another thread. So in the interests of fair play come out :fight:and no low blows.

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Do we need to say any more?????

Mind you I did see them in 1978, just before the first album was released, & they were pretty good - Knopfler played some ear-bleeding slide on a Telecaster - before they got into all the wanky guitar solos that went on for days...

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Its very easy to knock them, they are an easy target but Dire Straits and Love over Gold remain two top albums and some of Knopflers solo work and the guest contributors he attracts suggest much greater appeal than some may realise

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I think the triple back to back of Private Investigations at theJanuary backoff didn't help ;)

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Testure wrote:

I think the triple back to back of Private Investigations at theJanuary backoff didn't help ;)

Testy

If you thought that was bad Testy - we had to suffer at least 6 runs of "Calling Elvis" with treated discs etc at the Cornwall Bake-off :D:Not Sure:

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Papa Lazarou wrote:

Testure wrote:
I think the triple back to back of Private Investigations at theJanuary backoff didn't help ;)

Testy

If you thought that was bad Testy - we had to suffer at least 6 runs of "Calling Elvis" with treated discs etc at the Cornwall Bake-off :D:Not Sure:

ouch that can't be good

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Duvet wrote:

Ok there were some comments made about Knopfler and co;) (Stannah chairlifts etc) on another thread. So in the interests of fair play come out :fight:and no low blows.

Well I quite like them but admittedly I don't play their material regularly these days aside from the album 'Dire Straits' which I think still sounds great, very lively and some great geetar. I have all the albums - and the remastered ones too !

I've a bit of Knopfler's solo stuff too, Golden Heart which I do like very much, Sailing To Philidelphia which has some great stuff on it but perhaps for me weaker, the Rag Pickers Dream which quite frankly I thought was absolute sh*te, whatever the next solo was called Shangrila ? which I have on SACD - shows how much I rated it as Istruggled to remember the title. I have just picked up the Knopfler/Emmylou Harris release too. Actually the MK/Harris release is quite decent. very well-produced and simple laid back country & western - it's not earth shattering but a decent 'mood' listen which sounds very, very good.

Crikey :shock: I just didn't realise how much of his stuff I have.

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Brown Bottle wrote:

Guys bald but wears a head band, nuff said.

And he's a Geordie!!!!!! So you were never going to like him, were you Bottle?

Can't beat intra-North East rivalries can you?

Boxer

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I was 17 when Dire Straits burst onto the scene - and even then it was the music you bought for your dad while you were listening to Joy Division!

Age has not withered it - there was no need! Age hasn't improved it either, mind. :P

I quite like the Knopfler/Harris collaboration - but I'm a lot older now. One day I'll be old enough to enjoy regular listens to DS, maybe as an accompaniment to having my colostomy bag emptied. :TheBird:

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I like Dire Straits for their own merit:

First Album - Sultans of Swing. what a guitar solo.

Follow up - Communique. it's full of gems like Once upon a time in the west and Where do you think you're going.

Agree that the 'Private investigations at the demo' cliche is pretty accurate. it's akin to playing 'Stairway to heaven' when you try out a guitar in a shop. ;)

you can tell the hifi lovers as opposed to the music lovers by the music they bring. Dire Straits Love Over Gold does not necessarily mean 'here we go, another private investigations' but coupled with certain other tunes (Eagles - Hotel California to name one. the tape edit part way through is supposed to 'suck the sound out of the room' :roll: )

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug...

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boxer wrote:

Brown Bottle wrote:
Guys bald but wears a head band, nuff said.

And he's a Geordie!!!!!! So you were never going to like him, were you Bottle?

Can't beat intra-North East rivalries can you?

Boxer

Not your classic bar code shirt and tattoos Geordie though is he.

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Don't look at how "good" Dire Straits are, but how "shite" the rest is. How many albums have you got that you can honestlylisten to end to end without wincing or skipping tracks, or can manage 4 poorly executed chords at best? Not many I'll bet.

Dire Straits when they first appeared on the scene all those years ago were ground breaking at the time with their unique style. I first heard them round a mate's house who was also well into hi-fi and from that very first album he confidently forecast they were to become very successful - and he was right.

To this day they are the one and only group whose albums I can pull out of the rack and slap it on the turntable or shove in a CD and actually enjoy listening to every bit as much as I did the first time.

It's by no coincidence that "Calling Elvis" has become my reference test track because there is so much going on inside the mix that few systems can play faithfully and accurately. So I suggest you don't listen "at" it in a cursory manner, but listen "into" it and pay attention to all the various intricate layers within. If the snare drum isn't coming out as a tight crisp 'thwack' that makes your hair stand on end, orif youfail to noticethe change from sticks to brushes by the drummer two thirds of the way through, then you either need your system looking at or you aren't listening in the same way I do. When that subterranean bass line gets objects rattling in your room yet you barely hear it your speakers are doing their job, conversely if it arrives as an overwhelming boom, you have a problem that needs sorting.

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meninblack wrote:

I was 17 when Dire Straits burst onto the scene - and even then it was the music you bought for your dad while you were listening to Joy Division!

Age has not withered it - there was no need! Age hasn't improved it either, mind. :P

I quite like the Knopfler/Harris collaboration - but I'm a lot older now. One day I'll be old enough to enjoy regular listens to DS, maybe as an accompaniment to having my colostomy bag emptied. :TheBird:

I have similar feelings to MIB on this. When I was in the 6th form the middle class kids loved Dire Straits and we had it streamed endlessly in the common room, it put me off for life I think.

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So they arenot fashionable - I ain't bothered!

brilliant songs, brilliant guitar player, some great albums. Problem I don't think so.

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