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How good is the transporter?

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Chris who sold me his audionet ART v2 now using transporter and I notice more and more wammers going down that route. My naim dealer said he saw the SB stand at the show comparing the transporter side by side with Naim CD5x!

The question here is How good the transporter when compare with 2nd hand cd player that worth around£1,000?

Don't forget we are talking just Hifi sound qaulity here, you know....details, soundstage, dynamic range....I am not too bother about convinence side of thing.

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IMO the transporter does not sound as thebetter £1k secondhand CD players ie Marantz SA1-S1, Audionet ART V2, Meridian 588 etc.

OB - you may have noticed few wammers have realised this and sold theirs recently.

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A guy I know is selling his - he did a test of the Transporter, SB+ and Naim CDX. The CDX was the best, the SB+ a fairly close second and his Transporter a distant third (to the extent that they were thinking it may have a fault at one point!). He's selling his Transporter and buying an SB+, as he wants a streaming solution.

My SB+ sounds quite a lot better than my Shanling CDT100 did.

Depending on budget, the Linn Akurate DS might be worth considering, as their digital stuff has always sounded good. And then there's the Modwright Transporter...

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ob1 wrote:

Don't forget we are talking just Hifi sound qaulity here, you know....details, soundstage, dynamic range....I am not too bother about convinence side of thing.

I have a Transporter in a second system and it sounds very detailed and measured. It is not very musically engaging though, and I found my old Marantz SA-11S1 to be much better.

I also owned a SB+ and this was a significant improvement on the Transporter. Not quite as good as the SA-11S1, but very close. Close enough for it to be my main source for about 6 months in fact.

If you're not bothered by convenience OB1, then I'd say forget about the Transporter and similar products. Don't forget that you also need to spend a significant amount of time ripping your CDS, so it's actually quite an inconvenient solution to start off with. If I wereyou, I'djust keep swapping CD players instead ;).

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Ob, if you're just thinking of trying this route out then I reckon a normal Squeezebox Classic or Duet, plus a DAC, is a more flexible route, should you change you mind later.

You could always buy a CDP that has a digital input, like the Resolution Opus or the Cambridge Audio models. That way the CD and Squeezebox share the same DAC and allow good comparisons.

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I do love my Audionet Art V2 very much and recent A/B demo with Naim CDX 2 (twice the price, 2nd hand) make me rate the ART even higher.....It also see off Densen 400 plus and Cyrus DAC XP :shock:

I was just wondering since Mr. Technobear upgrade from the ART to transporter then it must be awesome! may be Chris was down grading ;).

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ob1 wrote:

I do love my Audionet Art V2 very much and recent A/B demo with Naim CDX 2 (twice the price, 2nd hand) make me rate the ART even higher.....It also see off Densen 400 plus and Cyrus DAC XP :shock:

I was just wondering since Mr. Technobear upgrade from the ART to transporter then it must be awesome! may be Chris was down grading ;).

I wouldn't say it was an upgrade at all.

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It's worth bearing in mind that the current crop of streamers are made by tech companies not established audiophile companies (with Linn the exception). When more companies bring out products, there should be a decent improvement in quality.

Digital streaming is, quite simply, a better mechanism (sorry) than getting the data off CD each time. The Transporter was the first audiophile device (actually the SB+ was, I guess) - give it some time and there will be improvements. Although they will probably be priced as audiophile products not as tech products!

Linn claim that their DS is their best ever digital replay system. There is something in this, not just convenience.

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ob1 wrote:

I do love my Audionet Art V2 very much and recent A/B demo with Naim CDX 2 (twice the price, 2nd hand) make me rate the ART even higher.....It also see off Densen 400 plus and Cyrus DAC XP :shock:

I was just wondering since Mr. Technobear upgrade from the ART to transporter then it must be awesome! may be Chris was down grading ;).

IMO, the Transporter and similar type of streaming devices sound best when connected to a good external DAC. That indicates to me that their DACs (not forgetting their internal power supplies) could do with somemore improvements.

While I like the convenience idea, I also like very good sound quality and for me to go down this route, it would have to be with the support of an outboard DAC. Having consideredacquiring a streaming device,I have now shelved the idea as I just don't have the time to audition the various DACs out there and I am not even sure if I would like to go down the external DAC route again. However,it will be revisited at some point in the future.

OB1 - you say you like the ART V2 very much. Have you heard the new ART G2?

Enjoy the musicâ„¢

Lawrie:D

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Can the internal dac on an SB/SB+/ transported be a by passed completely, also they stream the new 24/96 high res downloads becoming available ? Thanks Keith.

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Lawrie wrote:

IMO, the Transporter and similar type of streaming devices sound best when connected to a good external DAC. That indicates to me that their DACs (not forgetting their internal power supplies) could do with somemore improvements.

While I like the convenience idea, I also like very good sound quality and for me to go down this route, it would have to be with the support of an outboard DAC. Having consideredacquiring a streaming device,I have now shelved the idea as I just don't have the time to audition the various DACs out there and I am not even sure if I would like to go down the external DAC route again. However,it will be revisited at some point in the future.

Lawrie,

This is rather misguided. By using an external DAC you introduce jitter that need not be there. If you consider a Transporter as a DAC with a streaming system attached, you can see why it could be the best system for digital replay - the DAC can work with the minimal possible jitter, as its incoming data comes without the timing stream.

I agree that currently they can need DACs to get the best out of them, but this will change as the good DAC companies bring out network players. The streaming bit is aa lot easier to get right than the DAC bit, and separating them only introduces problems.

Of course, you can get around this by using the clock in on the Transporter, if you have a DAC with a clock out. It is difficult to see how this would not perform at least as well as the best transports out there.

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coopee wrote:

also they stream the new 24/96 high res downloads becoming available ? Thanks Keith.

I think the Transporter can but not the SB+

However, most people seem to prefer the basic sound quality of the SB+ over the Transporter.

Lefty

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